Borders and liminal experiences are at the core of both, Mischa Leinkauf’s artistic and filmic projects as well as Sandra Noeth’s curatorial and scientific work. Grounded in two short lectures that introduce their respective working practices and contexts, the dialogue focuses on the intersections of aesthetics, politics, ethics and law in dealing with borders: how to understand borders in their constructedness and performativity, and how to challenge them by artistic and discursive means?